Considering Houses

[perrie.livejournal.com]

Being the absolute geek I am, I was watching the ROTK:EE with my dad last night, and began wondering which Houses, if the LOTR characters ever stumbled across HP, all of the characters would be put into.

((Feel free to delete if too off-topic))



Now Sam I reckon would HAVE to be a Hufflepuff. Devoted, loyal, hard-working, patient, determined...all very much Puff characteristics. And he's such a sweetheart too, how could he not be a Puff?

Merry and Pippin were slightly harder, but finally I reckoned they would be Gryffindors. They had some real spark and courage by the end of the journey, and the way they lead the charge during the Scouring? Very Gryffy thing to do.

Frodo was harder...I'm still not decided on Frodo. He's not a Slytherin, and I don't think he's a Claw, but whether he's a Puff or a Gryff? He took the Ring, which is a hugely courageous thing to do, but I don't think he's impulsive or determined enough to be put into Gryffindor. I mean, Sam was the real strength behind him, right? But is he patient, hard-working and kind enough to be a Puff? Frodo's a hard one.

Gandalf is a Ravenclaw, absolutely. Is there any doubt about that?
Smeagol/Gollum; absolutely Slytherin. Pure drive for that Precious, he's all over it like a rash.

Boromir; Gryffindor. I think. Noble, proud, strong, very stubborn. All Gryff qualities.
Faramir; Harder. Ravenclaw perhaps? He's the more educated, quieter, more literary brother, and I think Claws have that loyalty that sends him back to Osgiliath for his father.
Denethor is even harder! Now with the corruption of the palantir, I'd say probably a Slytherin; he refuses to give up his place as Steward, he desperately wants the Ring...but maybe he's just a disturbed Gryff? He's very proud, after all, but I guess the same could be said of a lot of Slytherins?

Legolas. Hmmm. No idea about that one at all. I don't know Leggylass that well. Same with Gimli.

I'll leave everyone else to consider the rest as I'm too tired to be any more eloquent. Thought it might be interesting to give it a bash anyway.



Oh, and while I remember, a very happy New Years to everybody!

Perrie
-Gryff-

Comments

[goetzi.livejournal.com]

sounds good to me :D.
Legolas and Gimli... No Puffs at all... Put them all together into Gryffindor harhar :D.

[yndigot.livejournal.com]

Kay, so I got to say that I think of Boromir and Faramir as Slytherins, or at least Slytherclaw/dor. A tendancy toward Slytherin, even if they ultimatly would make choices that put them in other houses. They have a subversive quality. Brave? Yes. Smart? Yes. But sometimes their motives seem a little too personal to be all for the greater good, may Gondor prosper.

C. Green
Slytherclaw.

[perrie.livejournal.com]

Boromir/Faramir as Slytherins....now there's something thats never crossed my mind. Faramir did say he wouldn't ever touch the ring though, right? Which means he doesn't want the power, which negates the Slytherin qualities? I could be wrong, though.

Perrie
-Gryff-

[tangerinesidhe.livejournal.com]

I don't know if I would put Faramir in Slytherin. Maybe movie!Faramir, but NOT book!Faramir.

Boromir however would be good Slytherin. He's got a LOT of ambition. He's brave, yes, but I don't know if he's really Gryffindor material.

--Destiny, Gryff.

[elessar.livejournal.com]

I always debated over this. I think Frodo is one of those who could, like Harry, be placed in Gryffindor or Slytherin. Because he chose to destroy the Ring, I think he should be placed in Gryffindor.

As for Denethor, he was Slytherin. He nearly killed his own son for bijeezus sake ;)

Legolas and Gimli I'd think would be Gryffinpuffs. They're very loyal to each other (OTP!! XD) and yet look how many orcs they took out.

And lastly, Boromir was a Gryffindor because he restored his glory by dying for the hobbits ;)

Yay!

Chrissy//Hufflepuff

[perrie.livejournal.com]

Boromir's a Gryffy, yes. But that's why I'm wondering if Denethor would be a Gryff too...Boromir could so easily be a Slytherin, but if he was corruputed by the Ring, as Denethor was corrupted by the Palantir, then would not Denethor logically also have been a Gryffindor in his youth, before he starting using the Palantir? Interesting debate.

Frodo's a lot like Harry, isn't he? Sometimes I wonder if he's got all the right Gryff traits though...if the Black Riders hadn't have been out searching for the Ring, he would have stayed in the Shire, right? Which would have negated the point that makes him a Gryff, leaving a...Puff, perhaps?

Perrie
-Gryff-

[jupluna.livejournal.com]

Hmm...Not really going to dispute the Gollum being in Slytherin thing...but Denethor...I would have to go with a Gryff that turned out like Wormtail did. He just got so used to the power he didn't want to give it up...he went crazy...but he did at least start out with a good heart...even if it was twisted.

Lego I would have to go with either Ravenclaw or Gryffindor.
Gimli either Gryffindor or Slytherin...and the only reason I say Slytherin is because he is VERY proud of his race and seems to hold them above all other races. He's got that Slytherin loyalty.

Aragorn...I so spelled that wrong...would be a great Gryffindor...much like the Harry Potter type. He follows what is right, helps where it is needed, but doesn't want to be the hero and doesn't think he deserves it.

[ainu-laire.livejournal.com]

Aragorn...I so spelled that wrong...

Actually, you spelled it correctly :D

[perrie.livejournal.com]

Lego = Ravenclaw? He seems wiser than all the battles and fighting and stuff.

And Aragorn, yes. Absolutely Gryff!

Denethor like Wormtail...interesting thought. They both started out well, and with good intentions, but became corrupted. I like that comparison muchly. ^_^

[http://users.livejournal.com/caeru_/]

I that think Gandalf, while having Ravenclaw qualities, is more of a Gryffindor really, maybe because of his likeness to Dumbledore who was a Gryff if I'm not mistaken.

Smeagol/Gollum is a hard one for me but I don't think Slytherin is the right house for him. He's not driven by ambition but by obsession - he has no intention to use the ring to gain power, he only wish to possess it.

Caeru, Ravenclaw

[perrie.livejournal.com]

But surely the drive to get the Ring would make him a Slytherin? Slytherins will "use any means" after all, and Gollum was quite prepared to kill, or get others to kill in order to get what he wanted.

[tangerinesidhe.livejournal.com]

I agree with your Gandalf as Gryffindor assessment. He's got the mind of a Ravenclaw, but the heart and spirit of a Gryff. Sort of like Hermione, who is brilliant and full of knowledge, and Dumbledore as well.

--Destiny, Gryff.

[ainu-laire.livejournal.com]

OOh, oh!!!!!!! I love doing this.

*insert LOTR geek mode here*

Note, I'm going to be using the book characters, not them sissy movie characters.

Frodo: Frodo is very noble, thinks about his friends before himself. Reminds me of a Hufflepuff. He has a hidden bravery type of thing going, something that reminds me also of a Hufflepuff. He is not at all arrogant or brash (like us Gryffindors XD), nor is he remarkably clever or sly (like them Slytherins). He does have some book-cleverness like the 'claws, but I think Hufflepuff is for him.

Sam: A total Hufflepuff. Loyal, a hidden bravery, thinks about others before himself, all that good stuff.

Aragorn: Aragorn... I see him as a Gryffindor. First, he is very brave, and has some noblity in him. He is also sarcastic, as is seen when we first meet him in the books at Bree. He is slightly arrogant (Come on, out of all the ladies he could have, he goes for the most beautiful and noble of all, and thinks he can actually get her...). Haha, he is just so totally Gryffindor. Ai, I love him. /fangirl

Merry and Pippin: I think them as Gryffindors as well. Like Fred and George, only slightly more mature (books!). They are very rascally in 'A Conspiracy Unmasked'. But they prove to be brave in the end.

Boromir: Another Gryffindor. Brash, brave, arrogant, and very competitive. Not that much into books and all.

Gandalf: I actually imagine him as a 'clawish Slytherin. Let me explain. He is quite clever and sly when he wants to be. Very loyal to his friends, but not so open to those outside his little 'circle', so to speak. Mysterious, no one quite knows everything about him (reminds me of Draco Malfoy... no one really knows all about him). And he also has a sarcastic sense of humor at points, as well.

Legolas and Gimli: Not much is said about them. Legolas acts young, light-hearted, and full of joy in plenty of parts, with some prejudice to Gimli, at first. Gimli also has prejudice against him as well. Gimli is blunt, if I recall correctly. They also joke a lot, once they become friends. Hufflepuff I think is eliminated for the early prejudice. Slytherin... well, neither strike me as sly, clever, or Slytherin-ish. Ravenclaw... no. I think Gryffindor, considering their playish behavior and sometimes brash actions.

Non-Fellowship members in next post... WHEE!

[tangerinesidhe.livejournal.com]

I don't agree with Gandalf as Slytherin. I can understand your reasoning, it's just that I feel that there is more evidence in support of other houses. He's incredibly brave, and willing to sacrifice himself before others. He's more interested in the hearts of his companions than in their breeding. He's always playing the hero--not for his own glory, but because it's his duty as one of the Maiar. Gandalf, for me, is like Dumbledore, and a Gryffindor.

The rest look good to me. I've always thought that Hobbits for the most part are Puffish, it's just their nature. Frodo is certainly a Puff--even though he leaves to destroy the ring, which is brave, he does it, because of his love and loyalty to the Shire--his friends, family, and the beautiful green countryside.

Good work!

--Destiny, Gryff.

[beccastareyes]

Personally, I think we Hufflepuffs are one of the more cliquy Houses, so I wouldn't necessarily elimiante Legolas and Gimli from 'Puff consideration. Sometimes we forget that loyalty to one's friends doesn't necessarily imply nastiness to traditioanl enemies. And I think at leats some of Gimli's initial dislike of Legolas was because Legolas's father imprisoned Gimli's father in Mirkwood some time ago (see The Hobbit) -- which is still prejudice, but a tad bit more personal.

[ainu-laire.livejournal.com]

Faramir: Oh my, SUCH a 'puffish Ravenclaw. He is greatly into books and the studies, and he uses his cleverness when in Ithilien with Frodo and Sam, and doesn't exactly follow Gondor's crappy laws, and his heart instead... (damn you PJ!). He is also such a romantic guy. Love him as well.

Denethor: A corrupted 'clawish Gryff. Tolkien said that Aragorn, Denethor, and Faramir were very alike, having all a sense of leadership, noblity, and intelligence, like Numenoreans of old. Denethor has always had a brash temper and an arrogance about him, as well as a jealous streak, but he is very intelligent and once he was a great guy. Then that Palantir came along, and he lost it... poor chap.

Imrahil: If I rememember correctly, he is a bit light-hearted, but like Faramir... I'd say another Ravenclaw.

Elrond: Easily a Ravenclaw. Even when he was a warrior, he was not much into the fighting stuff, and liked lore and the healing arts better.

Arwen: We don't know enough about her. From the Appendices, I can determine that she was very sweet, and was willing to follow her heart even if her father did not permit it. I'll let you guys decide.

Elladan and Elrohir: I've always imagined them an exact copy of the twins. Nothing is said about them in canon, but come on... young twin elves NOT being mischievious is just not possible XD So, I'd say Gryffindor.

Halbarad: Alas, not much is known of him either, but he died bravely for his fellow Rangers. I wish we knew more about these not-so-main characters.

Bilbo: A Gryffish Hufflepuff. He likes adventure, but in truth he'd just rather stay home. Very loyal to those he loves. VERY generous. And queer (come on Gryffs, you know we are very queer ;)).

Theoden: Firstly, all Rohirrim are off the list for Ravenclaw, as they weren't into books and writing, and more into songs and activity instead. Not that 'claws aren't active... it's just that these guys don't have much of an education :D Anyhow, Theoden I imagine as a Hufflepuff. He is very kind and fatherly to Merry, and thinks about himself before others. And he is very loyal to his country.

Eomer: A total Gryff. He is a bit like Boromir; brash and loves action and competition. Very loyal to his country and family as well. Very defensive for his younger sister.

Eowyn: The exact opposite of Faramir; a Slytherinish Gryffindor. She is a bit cold and does not let many get to know her that well. Brave and loyal to country. And a bit sly and disobedient, as she does sneak in the army. Also ambitious.

Galadriel: A 'clawish Slytherin, with a dash of Gryffindor. She is very clever and wise. But she is also very self-confident and a 'I can take my own stand' type of woman. Ambitious. Very ambitious. She does not let her gender get in her way to success. She is also slightly power-hungry, as seen in 'The Mirror of Galadriel'.

Evil and conclusion in last post...

[ainu-laire.livejournal.com]

Wormtongue: A corrupted 'clawish Slytherin. He isn't brave at all, as seen when Theoden becomes normal again and, erm, 'declines' to help them in war and would rather stay home. He is very clever and sly, though, how he made his way to the king's top advisor and all.

Saruman: A corrupted Slytherinish Ravenclaw. Sly, clever, very intelligent and all. Power-hungry. If only he had never went so deep into Ring lore... poor sod.

Sauron: What Voldemort once was- a very 'clawish Slytherin. You cannot be stupid to get so high into power. He does have some arrogance, though, which is a little bit of Gryff as well. But very clever and intelligent... just let his want for power corrupt him. Ah, poor sod.

Smeagol/Gollum: Hmm... He isn't brave, nor notibly book-clever... I'd say a 'puffish Slytherin. He is VERY sly, yet the ounce of good that is left in him shows loyalty to Frodo. And there is a huge amount of loyalty to the Ring.

Treebeard: Hmm... this is harder as well. Ents keep to themselves, mostly. Are wise in the ways of the world, I think. I'd say another 'clawish Slytherin. Keeps to himself, but will help if there is benefit for the other Ents (which there is, he finds).

I don't think I missed anyone else of importance... and I don't feel like thinking about Tom Bombadil right now.

In general:

Hobbits: Hufflepuffs.
Rohirrim: Hufflepuffs, Gryffindors
Gondorians: Ravenclaws, Gryffindors
Lothlorien Elves: Ravenclaws, Slytherins
Rivendell Elves: Ravenclaws, Hufflepuffs
Ents: Slytherins
Big Evil Peoples: Ravenclaws, Slytherins
Fellowship: A huge mix of everything.

Now THAT'S interhouse relationship!

[perrie.livejournal.com]

And that's one hell of a breakdown of characters!

[tangerinesidhe.livejournal.com]

I don't think that the Ents are really very Slytherin-ish. They are mostly into being quiet and keeping to themselves, really very little ambition at all. I'd place them as Ravenclaw, since they are quite wise. I don't think that Ravenclaw is just about book smarts at all. It's more of a valuing of the mind and wisdom.

[shakiracrazy.livejournal.com]

I think Legolas should be in Gryffindor because then I would have him to cuddle with he seems sooooo Gryffindor-ish :D

~Rachel

[gir-m20.livejournal.com]

I think Legolas and Gimli would be in Gryffindor. They really remind me a bit of Fred and George, especially movie!Legolas and Gimli. By the end of the series they're treating each other like brothers. And no one can deny they're insanely brash and courageous.

Frodo screams Gryff to me because of the similarities between him and our dear Harry. I'd go into more detail with that, but i'm pretty sure someone already covered it.

I know this wasn't being disputed, but I just wanted to give a yay! for Sam. He is the ultimate 'Puff ^_^ I mean seriously, he's Puff-tastic.

As for the LOTR ladies...

Arwen, hmm, in the movies she's all femme-tastic. In the books not much is said about her character, but she's mostly depicted as this demure beauty, who also has a strong will. She's somewhere between Gryff and Puff, though if we're going by the book I'd say Puff.

Galadriel - I'd say Slytherin. Her ambition is very great, as we saw in the scene with Frodo. Though she's not teh evil or anything.

Eowyn - Another toughie. She's very brave and proud. And she's extremely loyal to her father. Like Arwen, she's got characteristics of both Hufflepuff and Gryffindor, and I'd say Gryffindor.

Gosh, there's like a bajillion LOTR characters. Due to laziness, there you have my input. XP

Nona
Huff-tastic-puff

[unwoundfantasy.livejournal.com]

Where's Aragorn?? LOL That was the first name I looked for, but it's quite obvious to me. I can't see him as anything but a Gryffindor.

Legolas... I see Ravenclaw. He's got that whole intelligent elf thing.

Boromir -- I see Slytherin, actually. Not because he was corrupted, but because he was so ambitious about the ring! And for the same reason, I'd say Faramir may be a Ravenclaw or Gryffindor -- he wasn't as ambitious to take it. He let it go.

Eowyn = Gryffindor, no shadow of doubt for me. Just thought I'd add that one in.

Sorting the actors, though... that would be quite an adventure. O_o

Housing the LoTR Part I

[terig.livejournal.com]

Okay, because this is a fun topic, I'm going to put my own take on various folks of LoTR:

The Fellowship:

Frodo: I agree he's a hard one to place, but I think his Gryffindor qualities do rise slightly above any other ones he has. For one, he was extraordinarly brave for taking the ring, and did it on impulse too during the counsel of Elrond. So, I'd put him here, but he has strong qualities that might put him in Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff too (his love of elvish lore, etc. for Ravenclaw and I just see hobbits in Hufflepuff - I don't know why).

Sam: Hufflepuff. Just no question to me. I agree there. He does have Gryffindor qualities, but I find that they come out strongest when in extreme circumstances. He is a staunch, supportive and steadfast friend, a hard worker and that just screams Hufflepuff.

Merry: Gryffindor. Tricky at first, because these qualities come out strongest later on in the books, but the fact he, along with Pippin, decided to travel with Frodo without fully realising the peril and the fact that they never showed any regrets about doing so, makes them Gryffindor material. Merry, however could have qualified for Ravenclaw since he seemed interested in learning things, but his Gryffindor qualities shine more.

Pippin: Poor impulsive, curious, naive but brave Pippin. I think he gets such a bum rap in much of the books. I love him. He is so very much a Gryffindor.

Gandalf: Definitely a Ravendor. ;) Ravenclaw first, Gryffindor second. He is wise, learned and values these qualities rather than impulsive bravery. He never does anything without a reason and carefully weighs the situation and takes the best course of action. Yup, Ravenclaw.

Aragorn: Another tough one. I'd say he's a Gryffinclaw. Gryffindor first, Ravenclaw second. He is brave, loyal and has strength of character but his bravery is not impulsive but calculated and based on the information he receives and through counsel. He could easily be one or the other, but I would put him in Gryffindor.

Boromir: Gryffindor. Yes, he was tempted by the ring, but he redeemed himself in the end with an extraordinary sacrifice. Boromir was brave, willing to put himself forward to save others, and strong. He did have the pride of Slytherin, but I think his Gryffindor qualities are so prominent, that they strongly override his Slythy ones. Boromir's goal was not to have power for himself, but to save his people. The ring obviously played on that desire and it was so deeply ingrained in his being that he gave into that temptation. Boromir is a classic tragic hero to me and although he died, he rose above his fault and in the end was redeemed (and he even admitted to what he did). If that's not a Gryffindor character, I don't know what is.

Legolas: I would put him in Ravenclaw. Legolas just strikes me that way. He is a great source of information and lore for the Fellowship and he is a lot wiser than he's given credit for. He doesn't seem terribly impulsive and while brave, it doesn't seem to be a defining quality about him. He has racial pride, but is not snotty about it. So, while not an easy placement, I'd put him in Ravenclaw.

Gimli: He's a hard one...I say Slytherdor. Slytherin first, Gryffindor second. He has an extremely strong sense of racial pride and seems to have a strong determination to accomplish his goals. He also has prejudices that do come out very quickly and is quick to judge. Still, he is brave, and loyal and impulsive. Slytherin doesn't necessarily mean bad. Gimli's pride really stands out to me which makes me say Slytherin, but he does have strong Gryffindor qualities too.

Teri//Ravenclaw

Housing the LoTR Part II

[terig.livejournal.com]

Okay, here's Part II, those characters outside of the Fellowship:

Bilbo: He's a Gryffinpuff. Gryffindor first, Hufflepuff second. He also has strong Ravenclaw tendencies. He's brave, although this didn't come out until later in life. He's not terribly impulsive but he's a loyal friend, kind and forgiving which to me are strong Hufflepuff qualities. Before his adventures with the dwarves though, he led a calm, uneventful and respectable life. He was well liked and well respected and did what he was supposed to do.

Elrond: Ravenclaw. He's considered one of the great lore masters of the elves and even Gandalf will periodically defer to him. He firmly belongs in Ravenclaw, IMNSHO.

Glorfindel: Oh, um, heheh. He's only in the books. Sorry, but he's a character I really like. I'm going to skip him though because he wasn't in the movies at all. Too bad, he's a cool character. :P (But he's a Gryffindor.)

Arwen: Book!Arwen is a Ravenclaw to me; movie!Arwen is a Gryffindor. Book!Arwen was truly her father's daughter - wise, knowedgeable and understanding. Movie!Arwen was brave, loyal, impulsive and had strength of character.

Haldir: Man, book!Haldir was a Hufflepuff to me and movie!Haldir was a Slytherin. No, hear me out. Book!Haldir was an elf who, based on what I could see, was a trusted worker that went above and beyond his duties. He stood out enough to be the one to greet the Fellowship and be their guide. He did what was expected of him. Movie!Haldir was proud, outspoken, almost snotty. No, definately snotty. Sure he was brave too, but would he have really joined the fight if not instructed to do so?

Galadriel: Ravenclaw with some Slytherin touches. I'm basing this on the books more than in the movies. Galadriel was a proud woman who seemed to believe at one time that the ends justified the means, but that changed with time and I believe deep inside she knew that the things she had done and supported in the first age especially were not wise and did more damage than good. Her Ravenclaw tendencies may have come out later, but I think were always there and much stronger. She's is wise, and values knowledge but also realises that interpretation is relative. She knows when to exert her power, and when to keep her counsel to herself.

Theoden: Gryffindor. In fact, when I picture Goderic Gryffindor I picture him looking like Theoden. I'm not kidding. Theoden may not have Goderic Gryffindor's impulsive nature, but his strength of character, his shining bravery and willingness to lead rather than stay behind is so pronounced I can't even begin to picture him in any other house.

Eomer: I was kind of pissed at how Eomer was handled in the movies. Still, both book!Eomer and movie!Eomer are definitely Gryffindors. Brave, impulsive and willing to lead and do what is right. Eomer is like a younger version of Theoden in this respect, but more impulsive.

Eowyn: I love this character. I would also put her solidly in Gryffindor. She is extremely brave and solid in her abilities. Strongwilled, stubborn, very impulsive and willful, she even did what no man could do...destory the chief of the Ringwraiths and although a tragic figure, she continued to remain brave even during her convalescence.

Treebeard: Hee, I just had to include him. He's a Hufflepuff! I can't even think of him going anywhere else. He's steadfast, kind, willing to weigh things, and not hasty, as he puts it. :)

Saruman: Ravenclaw, with a lot of Slytherin attached. Yeah, there's a temptation to put him in Slytherin right off with his pride and determination and attitude that the end justifies the means. But all this came about because of his Ravenclaw qualities. This really came about because of his study of the Rings of Power. He was considered the wisest of the five Wizards, their leader, the most learned and even Gandalf deferred to him.

Grima Wormtongue: Ravenclaw. Yeah, I know, I know but man was this man smart. He could read people well and had to have in order to affect Theoden like he did, and even Eowyn. Sure he was a slimy git but he had to have brains to do what he did. Yes, he had Slytherin qualities too, but his wit and intelligence make me think Ravenclaw.

Housing the LoTR Part III

[terig.livejournal.com]

This is the last of it. Heh, I guess I really wanted to justify why I'd put folks where I did. :P

Gollum: Slytherin. Everything nasty about Slytherin this character was.

Faramir: Another hard one. I'm tempted to say Gryffindor, because he was brave and honourable and kept his word, but I'm also tempted to put him squarely into Ravenclaw. Especially book!Faramir. Faramir was more a scholar than a warrior in the books, but movie!Faramir was more of a Gryffindor with some very strong Slytherin qualities. He's a hard one. So, book!Faramir I'd put in Ravenclaw and movie!Faramir I'd put in Gryffindor.

Denethor: Slytherin with some extremely strong Ravenclaw charactersistcs. He valued his pride and his connection with the Numenoreans more than probably any other such character. He also valued his position and wasn't about to give it up too easily. He was wise in many ways, and knoweldgeable and scholarly, but he wasn't above playing favourites, being very rude to others, even though they tried to aid him and counsel him and was disdainful of those he felt didn't measure up to his high standards.

Sauron: Does anyone even need to ask!

Re: Housing the LoTR Part III

[perrie.livejournal.com]

Hehe, Sauron = Hufflepuff? ;-)